Mori needs help

Started by Zozma at Jun 03, 2021 at 5:33 pm
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Zozma

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Moribund (linked in my signature) is having a hard time catching eyes. 

Basically, I just want a laymen’s version of what the site looks like to them. Unfriendly? Disorganized? Ugly???? Let me know what’s turning you off. (And if there’s anything that makes you happy.) 

I’m a little sad my baby isn’t doing so well so I’m open to p much any advice. Just. Be gentle with me. I don’t have a thick skin when it comes to criticism. 

Thank you! 😢 


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prolly not gonna be a full review but jst some first impression things. sorry for my bad english.

these colors are... not attractive. somehow all the box shadows and the colors manage to make it look kind of ... tf is the word. rudimentary? idk i dont know enough english i think. like something made in the 90s. dated i guess? i find using a neutral base color and then accent colors makes it look more polished and is nicer on the eyes.

personally the board layout is a little too wide for me. id also stick ur background image so it doesnt move its distracting af.

u and ur co seem to have a huge number of characters and for the life of me i cant understand why. a good number of which suck up a fc i or someone i know uses, and i know ppl that wont join a site if their fc isnt open, so that's probably contributing. maybe not sthn u can do anything abt but.

ur site also sounds a lot like it wants to be original but isnt divorced from smt enough to pull it off. id suspect the ppl u want are in the smt fandom, but ur not marketing as smt and arent getting their attention. maybe not sthn u can do anything about either.

at least half of ur posts or close seem to be comm threads. thats fine but i dont play that way, and its probably not very attractive to others that dont play that way. u might wanna consider marketing as a rapid-fire in this particular case.

like i said, jst some first impression things that might be standing in your way.


english is my third language and i speak plainly. this can sound blunt and harsh. im not attacking u i just dont have the vocabulary for w.e conversation we're having.



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I like the colors and box shadows, so I'm gonna put that down as matter of preference. It was also supposed to look sort of dated, that's the point of cyberpunk. Although it's supposed to be more 80s than 90s.

The board layout's width is the default, so if you have issue with that, take that up with Arceus. lol

I fixed the background attachment. My Animal Crossing site had a static background but I didn't really think about it for Mori.

I'm definitely not giving up any characters or faces I've taken, that's also subjective to me. I think if somebody wasn't going to join over a face claim being taken, I wouldn't want them to join anyway, since that's petty af. If that ends up being the reason the site is only my co-admin and myself, that's fine with me. LOL We didn't start with that many characters, but as we've been playing, more and more roles started popping up and since want ads weren't working and we are an impatient folk... well, we just made all the needed characters ourselves. ;)

While I was initially inspired by the Devil Survivor games in particular (one small area, monsters, summoners, etc), the rest is actually our own. We've been developing the Outworld where the demons come from ourselves without any reference to SMT at all. I definitely wouldn't market this at SMT fans though. I've found fandom RPers to be... not my cuppa tea.

Again, comms... that's preference. If it turns people off, then I didn't want those players anyway. I'm honestly not desperate enough to change things that are important to me. And comms have gotten me through a lot of rough times, when I wanted to RP but didn't have as much time, mental health was diving, or other things going on, but helped keep characters in mind, in character, and kept stories moving forward (as they inevitably lead to "regular" threads.

I appreciate you trying to help but it sounds a lot like my site just rubs you the wrong way (you seem bitter) and that's fine, I'm not making sites for everybody. I mean, it does give me a different perspective from somebody who doesn't like what I like... but I guess what this really did was reinforce my thoughts that my bestie and I build what we like and what we want and if other people come, then yay and if not... Well. I might ask for help in reviews but tbh, I am just hearing a lot of "this isn't for me" which is.... fine. It doesn't give me much to work with, though, since it comes down to personal taste. 😂 It's what I hear about every site I've ever made though.

I'm the "not your average girl" of the RPC I guess. 😂


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nope, not bitter, was jst answering ur question. u asked for what turns ppl off, heres why i think ppl wouldnt be joining and what turns me off. i also did mention its a first impressions, not a full review. i didnt dig into it past the surface, as many of those that first pop onto ur site wont if they're turned off by any of what i mentioned. if u find u dont want to change anything then thats fine. but i dont think u'll find ur site suddenly starts doing any better, either. could jst be there's nobody actively looking for a site that'd be interested in ur site rn. that happens too. but, some sites are jst small. there is no magic bullet for stuff like this.

cyberpunk is defined as futuristic dystopia. i dont think 80s when i think futuristic dystopia.

vesta comes w the board width switcher. maybe im not using the right english word for it, where the board changes from taking up the whole space to stacking side by side. and given arc doesnt run ur site i dont think ur site's width is their problem.

limiting fc choices sometimes limits ppl's character options too, bc there are players that can't mentally disconnect a fc from a character. if that character's fc is taken, they either change it and that character comes out weird, or they find a different or new character to play. and there are some that dont interact w media v much and dont have any alternatives and dont know how to find them. not requiring fcs helps some, but its usually not v fun to be that one guy using a chair avatar in a sea of actual faces. for some ppl this makes joining ur site harder than jst making a character and writing sthn. its not necessarily petty, sometimes its jst how their brain works, so i wanted to mention that specifically bc that came off really unfair. some ppl dont work like u. that doesnt make them petty. id have figured u of all ppl would understand this one.

theres also that w so much of the board plot revolving around u two, it can lead to a lot of befuddlement and concern abt how to fit a new character into things. it can feel a lot like a private site someone accidentally stumbled into when the site is dominated by two ppl like this. nobody wants to feel like an afterthought or a side bar on a site they joined to have fun, nor spend a crazy amt of time trynna figure out how to fit themselves into a new site.

btw, if u dont actually want ppl's opinions dont ask for them. how about this, dont waste ur time trynna appeal to ppl u clearly dont even want anyway, cause u may have to totally change how u play to get them. ask ur players what they think and what theyd like to see and learn to find a small site comfortable instead of concerning.


english is my third language and i speak plainly. this can sound blunt and harsh. im not attacking u i just dont have the vocabulary for w.e conversation we're having.



Zozma

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Yeah, no.

Just archive or delete this. I'm done asking for help that comes in thinly veiled insults.


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